Talk:Luka Urushibara/@comment-76.218.36.245-20151203152512/@comment-26377724-20151203210502

Oh man that's too long to read... i'll try to make far shorter answers.

First point, sorry but yes his father push him a bit on the beginning and after some time he was used to wear women clothes and don't bother anymore (on a side note it's because his sister is the exact opposite, she wear mens clothes and is a tomboy, his father take him to be a miko). I don't remember in which manga/VN/dramaCD i have see/ear that info but i'm sure i have ear that.

Second, you take one of my earlier argument without read what i have respond to. Because i approve what you said, being a transgender or not has nothing to do with is factual gender. It's just another argument to say, "he isn't a female", and not "he isn't a transgender". And again it's the debate of transgenderism and i don't care about this debate, i'm done for now.

Third you make a lot of supposition to bring a contradiction, i don't know you are right or not, what i say is that i have stop my reflexion on the first step on purpose: to only have facts. I think you also mixing the intentions and the thought of the male and female luka. You must separate his/her intentions towards Okabe when he/she is a male or a female because the japan's society like you said is too conservative and change the way people think a lot in fonction of the gender.

It's true i have said he is a repressed (by the society) homosexual when he is male, yes. It's what i think and i haven't said it was an argument, i'm not checking exactly what i said but i'm pretty sure i have add "I think" before say that.

For the last section, it's like i said just earlier, you melting the male and female Luka. I agree to said that female ruka is deeply in love with Okabe. But I still think (i.e not facts) if the male ruka wants to be a female it's the mixing of 2 affirmations, him unconfortable to have the apparence of a girl "Why i'm not a girl from the beginning?", and his hidden love towards Okabe. In consequence I think his love towards Okabe his only half of the answer to the question "why the D-mail?" and you forgot one of the motivations because you take the point of view of female Luka only and female Luka as an apparence of a girl and be a girl so no misinterpretation by other people.

I don't know why you have think i haven't take in consideration the society because i think i have take it a lot in consideration, maybe too much in fact. I finally agree to what you said, the creators want us to think about the (Japanese) society's influence on the orientation of a person... like we do know.

Anyway we both said a lot of content that are not facts and we can't bring those arguments and reflections on this article. Just to be clear i have strictly nothing against the transgender people and the rest of LGBT community. It's just the analysis of a character from a fiction, and don't confuse my opinion about a community and about a character. I don't confuse them so don't try to overinterpret what i'm saying. I deeply averse when someone try that especially when he is totally wrong on what i think.