Talk:Reading Steiner/@comment-27183706-20190611150327/@comment-27183706-20190614054043

Following the above train of thought, after erasing the mail from SERN's database, this is the "present" world state immediately before any attractor field activates or wordline shift happens :

-Kurisu is alive

-The time machine papers burned in the plane fire, so WW3 can't happen. (no metal UPA, we haven't even been in the building.)

-SERN has no information for inventing the time machine.

-Okabe intends to destroy his own time travel devices

These is no reason to converge towards either alpha nor beta, the major criteria for the shared future isn't met for either (no WW3 and no SERN). Seriously, why is this a beta worldline?

Out of the wordlines I know existing in the game, the only one similar enough to belong to the same attractor field is Stein's Gate, where all the above statements are true. The only major difference might be Suzu, in SG she is stuck in the present without time machine fuel I believe but in this worldline she already reached the past and is no longer alive/haven't been born yet. Which actually puts this outcome closer to the ideal ending in my opinion - she will be born in 2017 and she'll never use a time machine and can live a normal life, while also having succeeded in her "mission" of saving the world.

Anyway, with Kurisu alive and the ww3 papers burned, this isn't a beta worldline so even if I were to accept the beta attractor field can retroactively cause Kurisu to disappear, the causality is still broken. It's a beta worldline because Kurisu is dead and her papers cause WW3 to happen. But Kurisu only died because it's a beta worldline, no other reason. This is self-implying circular logic, with zero relation to what actually is true in the present - neither Kurisu is dead, nor is it currently a beta worldline. Only Okabe assumes it will be because the beta attractor is the only other one he is aware of.

Sorry for taking this so seriously, I really have no reason to either, I stopped playing at the Faris ending, it was far more satisfying than the "true" one I only know from the anime and wiki.