Talk:Attractor Field/@comment-150.101.121.161-20151015142725/@comment-150.101.121.161-20151017115708

Thank you for taking the time to write these long responses to me, It's been a very informative discussion, as I, too, love Steins;Gate's time travel theory and think it's very well implemented. Of course, it's also a bit tricky to understand since time travel itself isn't a topic that's easy to navigate. I appreciate your guidance, so to speak.

" Because all of this is so strongly caught up in the Alpha AF's world line convergence it probably would be impossible due to convergence for Okabe to have destroyed the PhoneWave in Alpha AF. Instead he chooses a route with much more probability of success by "undoing" one by one all of the D-Mails that had been sent, to get the world to shift incrementally back through the various Alpha AF's world line divergences and into the Beta AF. "

So, the way I'm understanding this is that the entire Alpha AF results in Okabe ALWAYS dying in 2025 (this is just one specific event that ALWAYS occurs) due to convergence, but something that does happen in the Alpha AF but not all the way from 0-0.99% like the lab being in possession of the IBN 5100 (let's say this occurs between 0.3-0.4 just as an example), D-Mails are able to correct this and ignore the Alpha AF's convergence because it isn't as important to the structure of the universe, while Okabe dying is, because it occurs between 0-0.99%? Does this convergence phenomenon only occur when the events are considered important enough to the Attractor Field (i.e. ALWAYS occurring in this AF)? For events that only occur between 0.1-0.2 or a small amount of world lines like that, convergence wouldn't occur? This also sparks another question of mine, which is: "What are the conditions for convergence to occur - does convergence only occur for events that ALWAYS happen in a specific attractor field (all the way from 0-0.99%), or can convergence occur for events that don't ALWAYS happen but mostly alwayshappen in the AF (0-0.8, for example)?"

" Time leaping and D-Mails have a different reach which effects how much change can be achieved with them due to world line convergence. "

I figured as much, but don't they basically use the same equation? Well, the difference being that you can only leap back to your own body and change events from there, while D-Mails can affect other people's phones (this actually makes me wonder what would happen if you time-leaped back into someone else's body, I wonder if that would work).

" For example that D-Mail about Kurisu dying was received in the whole Alpha AF field. A large range of divergences in the Alpha AF also received the D-Mail that prevented Faris's father from dying in the plane crash.   However, when you time leap you are restricted to only going back by a couple of days -or was it three? I can't remember. ^^;- and the fluctuation to the world line divergence caused by the arrival of your future memories in the past is less than ±0.000000%, so you are still very much close to the world line of the future you leapt from and your actions are caught in the same convergence more or less. The only way Okabe could have theoretically created the same effect as a D-Mail by time-leaping would be if he had been able to time leap from Aug. 13 to Aug. 9 -which is too far to time leap with their technology- and not stopped Suzuha from leaving; which Okabe did just as well by just sending another D-Mail about it. "

It was just theoretical, you're restricted to 48 hours of jumping back in time. Just assuming that you could time leap backwards any amount of time possible, consider this: Could Okabe theoretically jump back in time to right before he sent that message that made him jump from Beta to Alpha and not send that message, or would the world lines converge and force him into sending that message? Would he be able to jump Attractor Fields like this?

I might actually have to get an account on this wiki, since I seem to be quite active on it (I even edited Faris NyanNyan's information a few days back). I think I'll create one after this and call it 'north1085' or 'pastel2004', so I'll respond with one of those after this post.