Talk:List of Known World Lines/@comment-139.193.124.56-20161209175901

something just kinda bothered me about the first worldline that okabe originally came from, is there anything that specify the divergence value for it aside from this wiki? (i haven't read the VN entirely) also.. I'll be sharing stuff that I don't understand or at least, stuff that I am not yet certain.

spoilers ahead
at the first episode of the anime I think kurisu is actually still alive when okabe saw her in a pool of blood, I got to this conclusion after hearing okabe's scream at episode 23 and 24, the one that can be heard at the first episode is actually the scream from the episode 24, which is the scream from stabbing himself with his hand. This implies that kurisu's death is camouflaged but unfortunately, "episode 1 future" okabe was unable to secure the metal upa thus will result the upcoming ww3. At the VN, there are 3 different screams, which are at the very beginning of the story, failed attempt of 'saving' kurisu, and okabe stabbing himself with his hand.

so.. I'll be talking about this just from the anime. At the beginning there are definitely 2 okabes, this makes me think that the act of decieving past okabes has been done quite a lot of time. Because to reach the steins gate, the metal upa must be secured from kurisu's dad. Suzuha could be deliberately sending a lot of okabes, one at a time from different worldlines, to 'save' kurisu and secure the metal upa.

To have the story plays out to the true ending, it requires okabe to go upstairs and see kurisu lying in a pool of blood. This won't be possible without the future okabe. How did this even start? Why did the very first future okabe and suzuha time travels back to camouflage kurisu's death?

Also, to give a clearer picture to my last question assuming it is even valid, steins gate 0 should happen after the very first succesful camouflage, but the very first future okabe did not send any D-mails to tell the past okabe how to save kurisu without affecting the established history.